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<feed xml:lang="en" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"><title>Recent posts to CoDeSys Book</title><link href="https://forge.codesys.com/forge/talk/CODESYS-V2/thread/9663dca964/" rel="alternate"/><link href="https://forge.codesys.com/forge/talk/CODESYS-V2/thread/9663dca964/feed.atom" rel="self"/><id>https://forge.codesys.com/forge/talk/CODESYS-V2/thread/9663dca964/</id><updated>2020-02-27T21:03:28.828000Z</updated><subtitle>Recent posts to CoDeSys Book</subtitle><entry><title>CoDeSys Book</title><link href="https://forge.codesys.com/forge/talk/Codesys%2520V2.3/thread/9663dca964/?limit=25#c122" rel="alternate"/><published>2020-02-27T21:03:28.828000Z</published><updated>2020-02-27T21:03:28.828000Z</updated><author><name>Igor Petrov</name><uri>https://forge.codesys.com/u/igor-petrov/</uri></author><id>https://forge.codesys.com35e7446331833a00103ae376c08586bb56d4997d</id><summary type="html">&lt;div class="markdown_content"&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;unknown hat geschrieben:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br/&gt;
..you're trying to make fool of me...&lt;br/&gt;
Once again you did not include a bit of content in the message. It is a pity.  I’m used to be polite and answer for all direct questions. No problem if we entertain people here a little. There is no other reason to discuss Russian language book on English forum. So please excuse my sarcasm. Sorry &lt;br/&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;unknown hat geschrieben:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br/&gt;
....gathering information from help-files (as you did) into one file doesn't mean 'writing a book'. &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;It is strange opinion. Really the book is rather old. There were 4 republications during 5 years. The information resources for the book are not a secret. You could take a look on Bibliography.&lt;br/&gt;
I had about 50 responses for the book. They were quite positive. Some discovered misprints, some offered improvements. It was constructive. Your response is really strange and I do not know how I could use it. It is a pure criticism. I wonder if you really read the book carefully. &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;unknown hat geschrieben:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br/&gt;
..They're prohibited from being published in web or somethere else.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;So, you do not able to write and publish something useful. It is a pity.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Did you really use CoDeSys in military area? Was it some pirated edition as well? We have a few customers who wish to use it in military, but it is not allowed (legally).&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary></entry><entry><title>CoDeSys Book</title><link href="https://forge.codesys.com/forge/talk/Codesys%2520V2.3/thread/9663dca964/?limit=25#973b" rel="alternate"/><published>2020-02-27T21:03:27.409000Z</published><updated>2020-02-27T21:03:27.409000Z</updated><author><name>unknown</name><uri>https://forge.codesys.com/u/unknown/</uri></author><id>https://forge.codesys.com7fcb5fa4dac866c7f9427f8f307349bb602cc9b3</id><summary type="html">&lt;div class="markdown_content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;Igor,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;your behavior is very nervous. Be a big man! Just tell us that you haven't written the book. In fact you've copied and pasted some pieces of information. It's clear for all my co-workers. And now it's obvious, that you're trying to make fool of me by inserting stupid smiles into the text and kidding. You can ban me if you want to use some administrative buttons, but it will not change my opinion. Sorry.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Igor Petrov hat geschrieben:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br/&gt;
It means you are a super skilful person, probably a unique one.&lt;br/&gt;
Thank you!&amp;gt;&lt;strong&gt;Igor Petrov hat geschrieben:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br/&gt;
More reasonable is to publish a book with large circulation for ordinary people. I think we should have more books for beginners, who really need the assistance.&lt;br/&gt;
I agree, but gathering information from help-files (as you did) into one file doesn't mean 'writing a book'.&amp;gt;&lt;strong&gt;Igor Petrov hat geschrieben:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br/&gt;
Mr. Uncknown&lt;br/&gt;
unknown.&amp;gt;&lt;strong&gt;Igor Petrov hat geschrieben:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br/&gt;
Could you give some links for your own publications interesting for engineers?&lt;br/&gt;
I can't, sorry. All the information I publish in livejournal is for internal use only and for customers. If you had paid, I would have given some links for you.&amp;gt;&lt;strong&gt;Igor Petrov hat geschrieben:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br/&gt;
It would be super if you could describe you applications and publish it in CoDeSys web application area. Ok?&lt;br/&gt;
Most of the projects I do is for military and space purposes. They're prohibited from being published in web or somethere else.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary></entry><entry><title>CoDeSys Book</title><link href="https://forge.codesys.com/forge/talk/Codesys%2520V2.3/thread/9663dca964/?limit=25#c330" rel="alternate"/><published>2020-02-27T21:03:23.376000Z</published><updated>2020-02-27T21:03:23.376000Z</updated><author><name>Igor Petrov</name><uri>https://forge.codesys.com/u/igor-petrov/</uri></author><id>https://forge.codesys.com3f7b3f78ebb9429338a7a20b13aadc50169cfa8e</id><summary type="html">&lt;div class="markdown_content"&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;shooter hat geschrieben:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br/&gt;
igor i love you…&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;I heard Holland is rather unrestricted country, but.. we here are more orthodox. So, if you are long legs lady…:D &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;mbruck hat geschrieben:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br/&gt;
Is there a English version of Igor's book to buy ?&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;There is no English version - no reason for translation. &lt;a class="" href="http://www.plcopen.org/pages/promotion/iec_books/" rel="nofollow"&gt;There are many&lt;/a&gt; rather similar books in English available.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’d advise you: R.W. Lewis ‘Programming industrial control systems using IEC 1131-3’ (revised edition) – classic book  + take a look on &lt;a class="" href="http://www.3s-software.com/index.shtml?sample_projects" rel="nofollow"&gt;CoDeSys sample projects&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary></entry><entry><title>CoDeSys Book</title><link href="https://forge.codesys.com/forge/talk/Codesys%2520V2.3/thread/9663dca964/?limit=25#9eed" rel="alternate"/><published>2020-02-27T21:03:21.871000Z</published><updated>2020-02-27T21:03:21.871000Z</updated><author><name>mbruck</name><uri>https://forge.codesys.com/u/mbruck/</uri></author><id>https://forge.codesys.comb02c5ed5c129c0800bca627bff889f660f12ade0</id><summary type="html">&lt;div class="markdown_content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;Is there a English version of Igor's book to buy ?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary></entry><entry><title>CoDeSys Book</title><link href="https://forge.codesys.com/forge/talk/Codesys%2520V2.3/thread/9663dca964/?limit=25#cb33" rel="alternate"/><published>2020-02-27T21:03:17.708000Z</published><updated>2020-02-27T21:03:17.708000Z</updated><author><name>shooter</name><uri>https://forge.codesys.com/u/shooter/</uri></author><id>https://forge.codesys.comc698a59ad6c3a12be562e688b760a83f9b5d3cab</id><summary type="html">&lt;div class="markdown_content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;igor i love you, &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;will you write me a book now?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;just laughing.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;mr unknown is not very friendly to you, i am surprised you still even talk to him.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary></entry><entry><title>CoDeSys Book</title><link href="https://forge.codesys.com/forge/talk/Codesys%2520V2.3/thread/9663dca964/?limit=25#4926" rel="alternate"/><published>2020-02-27T21:03:16.300000Z</published><updated>2020-02-27T21:03:16.300000Z</updated><author><name>Igor Petrov</name><uri>https://forge.codesys.com/u/igor-petrov/</uri></author><id>https://forge.codesys.comc2343e9c9a4fb89ad2bbdeb3f58b775a9a70422a</id><summary type="html">&lt;div class="markdown_content"&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;unknown hat geschrieben:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br/&gt;
Would you mind if I pasted the link for dowloading a couple of your books here?&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;It is a really pirated copy. Somebody scanned the book in a pdf file. I wonder how much time he spent for it and what was the reason? I thought such thing could happen with detective or adventure stories only. One published a pirated book, others use it and even distribute the link. Crazy world  &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;unknown hat geschrieben:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br/&gt;
Igor said the book has been written for engineers... For which engineers? &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;One of the most complex known applications with CoDeSys in Russia is a huge distributed system with more than hundred PLCs and extraordinary puzzling mathematics. The application engineers are experts in metallurgy technologies. Originally they had experience with proprietary PLC programming systems. Thanks to the book they adapted to IEC programming and CoDeSys in a week. As minimum they reported it this way. Now I could consider the guys most skilful IEC programmers in Russia. &lt;br/&gt;
There are many similar reports. Certainly for the programmers with IT university background the integrated help must be enough. It was our idea during writing the help system. So, I do not understand your astonishment. The book is a starter for applications engineers with different background (beginner or newbie in IEC programming), help system is for engineers with PLC programming background.  It is clear. I guessed everybody must understand it. It's amazing you did not.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;unknown hat geschrieben:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br/&gt;
I don't need an assistance. Infortunately, in Russia none of the PLC programmers do the same projects .. as I do..&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;It means you are a super skilful person, probably a unique one. It would be foolish if somebody writes a book for a unique person (except a love story  ). More reasonable is to publish a book with large circulation for ordinary people. I think we should have more books for beginners, who really need the assistance. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Mr. Uncknown, please, do include something practically useful in your replies here. Otherwise I will consider it ‘trolling’ and ban it. Could you give some links for your own publications interesting for engineers? It would be super if you could describe you applications and publish it in CoDeSys web application area. Ok?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary></entry><entry><title>CoDeSys Book</title><link href="https://forge.codesys.com/forge/talk/Codesys%2520V2.3/thread/9663dca964/?limit=25#67cb" rel="alternate"/><published>2020-02-27T21:03:12.334000Z</published><updated>2020-02-27T21:03:12.334000Z</updated><author><name>shooter</name><uri>https://forge.codesys.com/u/shooter/</uri></author><id>https://forge.codesys.com638af75f9d8d114ac32455492a7c409dd2a68f2b</id><summary type="html">&lt;div class="markdown_content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;Multi axes and difficult is what i like. And yes some companies do have knowledge on your area.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;i know beckhoff is very good in this multi stuff.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;and they have a very good office in holland&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;for even more forum stuff goto plcs.org&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;and to oscat.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;They have good function blocks and if you download the txt file you have good docs on it too.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary></entry><entry><title>CoDeSys Book</title><link href="https://forge.codesys.com/forge/talk/Codesys%2520V2.3/thread/9663dca964/?limit=25#25c1" rel="alternate"/><published>2020-02-27T21:03:10.839000Z</published><updated>2020-02-27T21:03:10.839000Z</updated><author><name>unknown</name><uri>https://forge.codesys.com/u/unknown/</uri></author><id>https://forge.codesys.com6fab05893d885a5b64b3eb44e435034fbcf4a35c</id><summary type="html">&lt;div class="markdown_content"&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;shooter hat geschrieben:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br/&gt;
...this mister unknown needs a book so he can copy his program from it and say he made the program.&lt;br/&gt;
Ha-ha-ha! Quite funny... I don't need an assistance. Infortunately, in Russia none of the PLC programmers do the same projects (for multiaxis control and nuclear industry) as I do, which is why I need to forward all the questions I have to the representative office in Germany.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Igor said the book has been written for engineers... For which engineers? Who haven't graduated the university, or who aren't qualified enough, or who just can't use help files, or who can't open &lt;a class="" href="http://www.wikipedia.org/" rel="nofollow"&gt;http://www.wikipedia.org/&lt;/a&gt; in the browser? I know for whom this book. It's for complete newbies (and Igor agreed). Of course, the majority of the programmers I know in Russia work just only with simple projects (programming DI/DO/AI/AO, using memory resources etc.). My tasks are very different.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary></entry><entry><title>CoDeSys Book</title><link href="https://forge.codesys.com/forge/talk/Codesys%2520V2.3/thread/9663dca964/?limit=25#15a0" rel="alternate"/><published>2020-02-27T21:03:09.443000Z</published><updated>2020-02-27T21:03:09.443000Z</updated><author><name>shooter</name><uri>https://forge.codesys.com/u/shooter/</uri></author><id>https://forge.codesys.com00962d99e949156983f6912273a0ad7851ae2409</id><summary type="html">&lt;div class="markdown_content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;i used the link, and yes i can not read russian at all so no help &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;however i do like some docs on programming and yes i still think a few simple examples would be fine.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;i think the book is good and is a good travel agent for starters, however this mister unknown needs a book so he can copy his program from it and say he made the program.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary></entry><entry><title>CoDeSys Book</title><link href="https://forge.codesys.com/forge/talk/Codesys%2520V2.3/thread/9663dca964/?limit=25#22c6" rel="alternate"/><published>2020-02-27T21:03:05.459000Z</published><updated>2020-02-27T21:03:05.459000Z</updated><author><name>unknown</name><uri>https://forge.codesys.com/u/unknown/</uri></author><id>https://forge.codesys.com971712f68694e7eebb3d9fd71f74baaaa96f2d16</id><summary type="html">&lt;div class="markdown_content"&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Igor Petrov hat geschrieben:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br/&gt;
You wrote you downloaded a pirated version. It could be a draft, extractions or something...&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;a class="" href="http://lib.rus.ec/booksearch?ask=%D0%9F%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B3%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BC%D0%BC%D0%B8%D1%80%D1%83%D0%B5%D0%BC%D1%8B%D0%B5+%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%BD%D1%82%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%BB%D0%B5%D1%80%D1%8B" rel="nofollow"&gt;link&lt;/a&gt; for dowloading a couple of your books here? Before I downloaded it I'd already seen the same book in the bookstore.&amp;gt;&lt;strong&gt;Zitat:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br/&gt;
Concerning the content, you are right. My book is not for qualified staff. It is clear. It aimed at beginners.&lt;br/&gt;
There are at least three ways for beginners to learn about PLC programming. The first way is to waste money on the book. The second is by using help files. And the last one is to call to the Prolog's support and speak with moody (I'm very sorry) Igor Petrov. In spite of that fact, most of my collegues who doesn't have enough experience in PLC programming just use CoDeSys help files instead of reading the book - it's much more helpful.&amp;gt;&lt;strong&gt;Zitat:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br/&gt;
So, I definitely will not ‘write something really helpful for qualified staff’&lt;br/&gt;
Well... Good answer. Ok, I don't have any extra question. I'm disappointed. See you the next exhibition or at the conference!&lt;/p&gt;
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